Comments on: Holy Paladin – Mana Regen / Throughput Stats http://www.wow-track.com/2009/11/07/holy-paladin-mana-regen-throughput-stats/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=holy-paladin-mana-regen-throughput-stats World of Warcraft news Mon, 12 Jul 2010 12:52:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Hallibel http://www.wow-track.com/2009/11/07/holy-paladin-mana-regen-throughput-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-3878 Hallibel Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:04:05 +0000 http://www.wow-track.com/?p=1219#comment-3878 On my holy paladin, I pretty much gem all my gear with intellect unless the socket bonus is worth getting (or need to meet the meta gem), in which case I use either sp/intel, or intel/mp5. But what I do when raiding is pretty much spam FoL until the tank looks like he's starting to drop a lot, in which case I use Divine Illumination and a SP trinket(because it has a shorter cooldown than Avenging Wrath), and HL until the situation is cooled down. But you have to think... Without so much mana, how far could you go? What if the other healer dies and it's just you? You NEED the mana to be able to crank out those big heals to finish off the boss. Yeah, you might be able to squeeze in a judgement for your 1k w/e mana, but that'll only last you one HL (IF) you even get the mana proc. In a situation where you're by yourself, you wont have the time to run up to the boss and get some melee hits for mana, either... So the way I look at it, it's kind of a situation dependency. While some others might say something like "If you had the haste, you could of healed the other healer fast enough and he/she would have never died therefor you're not by yourself," I'll just say "What if they were 1-shot?" Remember, they ARE a healer.. Meaning they dont stack health/armor, and can easily be crit... But really, why would you even need to spam HL? Have you ever checked how much overhealing you've done with recount after a fight? Probably a lot. So why not just spam FoL until the tank or a raid member starts to drop? And even with a raid member, all you have to do is Holy Shock, and Flash of Light... Holy Shock will even let you instant cast FoL if it crits, and save you more mana. Plus, if your Holy Shock crits, it'll most likely get that DPS back to full health, letting you just insta-Flash the tank.. Even more mana saved! Now dont get me wrong... When the fight is almost over, and I look up and see I have 80% mana, and a Bloodlust/Heroism is activated, I go on a HL frenzy just to get some numbers out and hit top of healing charts >.> But all's well! and even if the battle doesnt end by the time BL/Heroism is up, all I have to do is judge and whack once or something.. And if in a situation where I go out of mana, just Divine Plea>Divine Illumination>Avenging Wrath>SP Trink, and cast... You gain a lot of mana (especially with frost emblem 'Chance on Cast' effect proc active), yet still pull off about the same heals. But like others have said before me... Thank you for the insane number crunching, and great guide. On my holy paladin, I pretty much gem all my gear with intellect unless the socket bonus is worth getting (or need to meet the meta gem), in which case I use either sp/intel, or intel/mp5. But what I do when raiding is pretty much spam FoL until the tank looks like he’s starting to drop a lot, in which case I use Divine Illumination and a SP trinket(because it has a shorter cooldown than Avenging Wrath), and HL until the situation is cooled down. But you have to think… Without so much mana, how far could you go? What if the other healer dies and it’s just you? You NEED the mana to be able to crank out those big heals to finish off the boss. Yeah, you might be able to squeeze in a judgement for your 1k w/e mana, but that’ll only last you one HL (IF) you even get the mana proc. In a situation where you’re by yourself, you wont have the time to run up to the boss and get some melee hits for mana, either… So the way I look at it, it’s kind of a situation dependency. While some others might say something like “If you had the haste, you could of healed the other healer fast enough and he/she would have never died therefor you’re not by yourself,” I’ll just say “What if they were 1-shot?” Remember, they ARE a healer.. Meaning they dont stack health/armor, and can easily be crit… But really, why would you even need to spam HL? Have you ever checked how much overhealing you’ve done with recount after a fight? Probably a lot. So why not just spam FoL until the tank or a raid member starts to drop? And even with a raid member, all you have to do is Holy Shock, and Flash of Light… Holy Shock will even let you instant cast FoL if it crits, and save you more mana. Plus, if your Holy Shock crits, it’ll most likely get that DPS back to full health, letting you just insta-Flash the tank.. Even more mana saved! Now dont get me wrong… When the fight is almost over, and I look up and see I have 80% mana, and a Bloodlust/Heroism is activated, I go on a HL frenzy just to get some numbers out and hit top of healing charts >.> But all’s well! and even if the battle doesnt end by the time BL/Heroism is up, all I have to do is judge and whack once or something.. And if in a situation where I go out of mana, just Divine Plea>Divine Illumination>Avenging Wrath>SP Trink, and cast… You gain a lot of mana (especially with frost emblem ‘Chance on Cast’ effect proc active), yet still pull off about the same heals.
But like others have said before me…
Thank you for the insane number crunching, and great guide.

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]]> By: Arnoch http://www.wow-track.com/2009/11/07/holy-paladin-mana-regen-throughput-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-2534 Arnoch Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:44:05 +0000 http://www.wow-track.com/?p=1219#comment-2534 This is all very good information. I would just like to add on a bit. On my holy pally I started out as a FoL spammer until I got the gear to be a haste->HL spammer. Now, as for running out of mana, proper CD use helps a lot. Starting with Divine Illumination, then at 50% mana or so using Divine Plea + Avenging Wrath + SP Trinket to keep the heals flowing and the mana bar at a decent level, followed, if needed, by a pot and (for blood elves) Arcane Torrent, then starting the rotation over again. Proper CD timing/rotation certainly is key to the haste->HL spammer, but when it's done right, it can be a great way to heal as a pally especially when considering that you aren't always needing to cast. Either way, great guide! This is all very good information. I would just like to add on a bit.
On my holy pally I started out as a FoL spammer until I got the gear to be a haste->HL spammer. Now, as for running out of mana, proper CD use helps a lot. Starting with Divine Illumination, then at 50% mana or so using Divine Plea + Avenging Wrath + SP Trinket to keep the heals flowing and the mana bar at a decent level, followed, if needed, by a pot and (for blood elves) Arcane Torrent, then starting the rotation over again. Proper CD timing/rotation certainly is key to the haste->HL spammer, but when it’s done right, it can be a great way to heal as a pally especially when considering that you aren’t always needing to cast.
Either way, great guide!

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]]> By: mag64 http://www.wow-track.com/2009/11/07/holy-paladin-mana-regen-throughput-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-1597 mag64 Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:30:11 +0000 http://www.wow-track.com/?p=1219#comment-1597 Boujour a tous Je suis palaheal depuis qql temps deja ms j avoue que la je suis un peu perdue...j ai bcp privilégier la hate+bonus soin jusque la ms depuis la 3.3 je vois bien que je manque de regen mana. Dc j ai refait mon stuff avec plus de regen et tjrs bonus soin ms la c est la hate et le critique qui baissent.Je joue principalement eclair lumineux/horion sacré couplé avec boubou et guide et j aimerais savoir ce que vs pensez de mon stuff léger etc..et avoir qql avis sur ma facon de jouer, sur mes stats. Suis je ds le vrai?? Ci joint mon lien armu http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Eitrigg&n=Morfyne Merci d avance une palaheal en detresse lol Boujour a tous

Je suis palaheal depuis qql temps deja ms j avoue que la je suis un peu perdue…j ai bcp privilégier la hate+bonus soin jusque la ms depuis la 3.3 je vois bien que je manque de regen mana. Dc j ai refait mon stuff avec plus de regen et tjrs bonus soin ms la c est la hate et le critique qui baissent.Je joue principalement eclair lumineux/horion sacré couplé avec boubou et guide et j aimerais savoir ce que vs pensez de mon stuff léger etc..et avoir qql avis sur ma facon de jouer, sur mes stats. Suis je ds le vrai??
Ci joint mon lien armu http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Eitrigg&n=Morfyne Merci d avance une palaheal en detresse lol

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]]> By: Leepi http://www.wow-track.com/2009/11/07/holy-paladin-mana-regen-throughput-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-1371 Leepi Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:06:58 +0000 http://www.wow-track.com/?p=1219#comment-1371 Wyadevil, I almost feel sorry for you having to type that up and not realizing that in a raid situation, there is replenishment, wisdom and shaman totems to help with regen... Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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]]> By: Maddpally http://www.wow-track.com/2009/11/07/holy-paladin-mana-regen-throughput-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-838 Maddpally Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:04:13 +0000 http://www.wow-track.com/?p=1219#comment-838 Hi, maybe I'm missing something, but can someone explain to me how does 100 item points in MP5 translate to 50MP5? Wouldn't it be a 1:1 translation (i.e. 100MP5)? Hi, maybe I’m missing something, but can someone explain to me how does 100 item points in MP5 translate to 50MP5? Wouldn’t it be a 1:1 translation (i.e. 100MP5)?

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