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	<title>Comments on: GC on Warbringer nerf</title>
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		<title>By: Bimmu</title>
		<link>http://www.wow-track.com/2010/01/11/gc-on-warbringer-nerf/comment-page-1/#comment-5008</link>
		<dc:creator>Bimmu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 05:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 things...
1. This is gonna mess up prot warriors for pve and pvp. Way to nerf us blizz...again...
2. @Moosheep, this is about warriors and their nerfing for prot, not dks, no one really cares about them, if u wanna bitch about them and their failness then go to the dk section...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 things&#8230;<br />
1. This is gonna mess up prot warriors for pve and pvp. Way to nerf us blizz&#8230;again&#8230;<br />
2. @Moosheep, this is about warriors and their nerfing for prot, not dks, no one really cares about them, if u wanna bitch about them and their failness then go to the dk section&#8230;
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		<title>By: Shishioh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shishioh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 11:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All valid comments. Though I won&#039;t lie about it, Warbringer did make warriors huge pests in PvP, I don&#039;t believe Blizzard took full consideration on the matter. Perhaps I was a nuisance while Charge, Intercept, and Intervene weren&#039;t on cooldown, but once they were, I was a sitting target for any mage or ranged class for that matter with the skill enough to kill me. Survivability was close to zero in PvP, and I don&#039;t recall ever doing any serious damage with Shield Slam that made me top of the list in any of the Battlegrounds, not without me putting serious effort into it, and even then I was never number one. Kills are especially difficult to pull off because of either not having enough rage to finish an opponent off, or others being quicker to kill the opponent, that is assuming you even have a team capable enough to do that. Rage in general is limited enough to where us &quot;dominating&quot; any class is pretty much impossible. The way I see it I preferred being a minor inconvenience than a push over...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All valid comments. Though I won&#8217;t lie about it, Warbringer did make warriors huge pests in PvP, I don&#8217;t believe Blizzard took full consideration on the matter. Perhaps I was a nuisance while Charge, Intercept, and Intervene weren&#8217;t on cooldown, but once they were, I was a sitting target for any mage or ranged class for that matter with the skill enough to kill me. Survivability was close to zero in PvP, and I don&#8217;t recall ever doing any serious damage with Shield Slam that made me top of the list in any of the Battlegrounds, not without me putting serious effort into it, and even then I was never number one. Kills are especially difficult to pull off because of either not having enough rage to finish an opponent off, or others being quicker to kill the opponent, that is assuming you even have a team capable enough to do that. Rage in general is limited enough to where us &#8220;dominating&#8221; any class is pretty much impossible. The way I see it I preferred being a minor inconvenience than a push over&#8230;
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		<title>By: ChrisAvenger</title>
		<link>http://www.wow-track.com/2010/01/11/gc-on-warbringer-nerf/comment-page-1/#comment-4001</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisAvenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True I don&#039;t often hear about people asking for Warrior as tanks, it&#039;s always about Paladin, but I don&#039;t think Warrior got a suvivability problem, damage or threat problem, only problem I see as a Warrior is the AoE agro, Thunderclap doing low damage and threat, while having a big cooldown (compared to a Paladin Conesecration, which can be up 100% of the time). Strange but I don&#039;t see paladin being nerfed that often, they got lots of shields, can heal themself, and can take massive damage, and got alot of damage reduction, and got hand of freedom to free themself. But when a Warrior get something to get out of snare, or have a small chance to take advantage, it get removed, I never heard someone asking for a Warrior in arenas. But anyway the main problem I think protection Warrior have is the AoE agro, because Cleave and Thunderclap just don&#039;t do the work if a DPS focus on another target than yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True I don&#8217;t often hear about people asking for Warrior as tanks, it&#8217;s always about Paladin, but I don&#8217;t think Warrior got a suvivability problem, damage or threat problem, only problem I see as a Warrior is the AoE agro, Thunderclap doing low damage and threat, while having a big cooldown (compared to a Paladin Conesecration, which can be up 100% of the time). Strange but I don&#8217;t see paladin being nerfed that often, they got lots of shields, can heal themself, and can take massive damage, and got alot of damage reduction, and got hand of freedom to free themself. But when a Warrior get something to get out of snare, or have a small chance to take advantage, it get removed, I never heard someone asking for a Warrior in arenas. But anyway the main problem I think protection Warrior have is the AoE agro, because Cleave and Thunderclap just don&#8217;t do the work if a DPS focus on another target than yours.
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		<title>By: Barukh of Antonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barukh of Antonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The background to the present problem plainly stated:
1. Warriors cannot heal/rez others
2. Warrior plate is effective only against melee dmg
3. Warrior tank dps is the lowest of all tanks

The present problem:
1. Ghostcrawler seems clueless how to run a MMORPG
2. Warrior nerfs throughout WotLK xpac have been crippling: Warbringer nerfed to extinction; Bladestorm nerfed to extinction; Titan&#039;s Grip nerfed; Revenge (stun) nerfed.
3. Warrior tanks are becoming unheard of in high-end raiding guilds; warrior tanks (in PVE) are desirable only for heroic content, which content has become a faceroll due to upper-tier gear.

Why does WoW make a class that is unnecessary for high-end raiding guilds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The background to the present problem plainly stated:<br />
1. Warriors cannot heal/rez others<br />
2. Warrior plate is effective only against melee dmg<br />
3. Warrior tank dps is the lowest of all tanks</p>
<p>The present problem:<br />
1. Ghostcrawler seems clueless how to run a MMORPG<br />
2. Warrior nerfs throughout WotLK xpac have been crippling: Warbringer nerfed to extinction; Bladestorm nerfed to extinction; Titan&#8217;s Grip nerfed; Revenge (stun) nerfed.<br />
3. Warrior tanks are becoming unheard of in high-end raiding guilds; warrior tanks (in PVE) are desirable only for heroic content, which content has become a faceroll due to upper-tier gear.</p>
<p>Why does WoW make a class that is unnecessary for high-end raiding guilds?
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		<title>By: Melysena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melysena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a dk &amp; warrior both duel spec, I love them both!!
I cried when I logged on after 3.1 or whatever patch to see my dk&#039;s armor rating dropped 4000 points and all resist dropped from 80 to 60. Blizz likes to nerf things. I don&#039;t know anything about the math, and don&#039;t really care, I play because I enjoy the game.
   I know what I see though, I&#039;ve been living in random, I do more dps than tanking, and what I&#039;ve been seeing or rather not seeing is warrior tanks, they are a rare bird. The few warrior tanks I have seen seem to have to work harder, &quot;adds, trash&quot;. The next rarest are druid tanks and then dks, at least 80% of the time it&#039;s a pally tank. They do&#039;nt seem to have to work nearly as hard at it either. I see a fair amount of balance with tanking in practice, &quot;do&#039;nt know about the math&quot;, where dk&#039;s, warriors and druids are concerned, but the pally&#039;s seem to be exempt.
If blizz wants balance, they need to put down the calculaters, and take a harder look at prot &amp; ret pally&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a dk &amp; warrior both duel spec, I love them both!!<br />
I cried when I logged on after 3.1 or whatever patch to see my dk&#8217;s armor rating dropped 4000 points and all resist dropped from 80 to 60. Blizz likes to nerf things. I don&#8217;t know anything about the math, and don&#8217;t really care, I play because I enjoy the game.<br />
   I know what I see though, I&#8217;ve been living in random, I do more dps than tanking, and what I&#8217;ve been seeing or rather not seeing is warrior tanks, they are a rare bird. The few warrior tanks I have seen seem to have to work harder, &#8220;adds, trash&#8221;. The next rarest are druid tanks and then dks, at least 80% of the time it&#8217;s a pally tank. They do&#8217;nt seem to have to work nearly as hard at it either. I see a fair amount of balance with tanking in practice, &#8220;do&#8217;nt know about the math&#8221;, where dk&#8217;s, warriors and druids are concerned, but the pally&#8217;s seem to be exempt.<br />
If blizz wants balance, they need to put down the calculaters, and take a harder look at prot &amp; ret pally&#8217;s.
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